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Mando_John
Total Posts: 79
Member Since: 07/09

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 04:38 PM

This message was edited by Mando_John on Aug 11, 2009 04:41 PM

Funny, sure I remember Joss Whedon, the creator of Firefly saying his inspiration for Firefly was Star Wars. Firefly was 2001 or so, SW was 1977. Quite a time difference between 'em.

Funny, I remember writing the word "better" not "first". I would consider Star Wars as inspiration for a lot of things, my own writing included. However, just because it serves as inspiration doesn't mean that it is superior, just that it happened before your works. For example, "You know, I really like Star Wars, but I'd bet I can do (example A, B, and C) better."

IllogicalRogue2
Total Posts: 10284
Member Since: 02/03

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 05:04 PM

This message was edited by IllogicalRogue2 on Aug 11, 2009 05:04 PM

Mandos in Legacy!

What do you think? Too soon? Or just in time?

IllogicalRogue2
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Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 05:22 PM

This message was edited by IllogicalRogue2 on Aug 11, 2009 05:23 PM

Hmmmm I'm wondering- why can't we have 2 Mandalore systems? We have MULTIPLE Sith Orders.

What if some Mandolorians chose the TCWAS Mandalore, where the Mando'ade of the Mandolorians went to the Mandalore from previous materials?

I mean they are a culture that was cast to the winds- this would explain part of why- a cultural divide to a homeworld.

IllogicalRogue2
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Member Since: 02/03

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 05:24 PM

So I'm trying not to worry.

But I can't stop pondering and contemplating.

kyp durron 21
Total Posts: 27
Member Since: 12/04

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 05:30 PM

Your idea makes sense. After all, they name each leader "Mandalore". What if they name their current homeworld Mandalore as well? I like the idea. And that could solve any continuity issue with mandalorians. The galaxy is huge, mandalorians are eveywhere, they could've had homeworlds in all parts of the galaxy throughout the ages.

kyp durron 21
Total Posts: 27
Member Since: 12/04

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 05:36 PM

Actually, sorry about that, I misread your comment. I read only half of it and had my own idea and got excited.

But, there have been two mandalorian groups before, if you remember. So there could be two different groups.

angstor
Total Posts: 7297
Member Since: 01/07

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 05:56 PM

I stand by my genius statement, sure others will agree.

Absolutely.

I'd recommend reading the "Star Wars: The Magic of Myth" by Mary Henderson for how deep the mythology and Lucas's influences go - it's not just King Arthur, it's far more complex.

Indeed, there is a great deal in there... a very great deal.

theredfoot35
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Member Since: 11/06

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 06:03 PM

I personally like the History Channel Star Wars Special but yeah.... and that's a great idea. But the thing is KT's is well thought out with a laungage and a culture. The other one will have some culture but not near as much... nd beings that one is on TV and is closer associated to GL, KT's mandalorians would be marginalized and turned into a cult of them and not the main order.

		Sue Rostoni Member Profile Total Posts: 2863 Member Since: 11/01

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 06:07 PM

But I can't stop pondering and contemplating.

You folks are already coming up with some logical and viable explanations for this particular continuity challenge -- and it's this pondering and contemplating that all of you, plus Leland and the rest of us, will be doing as the series progresses. There are a lot of possible ways to incorporate the new material into the old and have it work together without a complete suspension of belief. It's all a part of the creative process.

JamesGilmer
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Member Since: 09/04

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 06:41 PM

and it's this pondering and contemplating that all of you, plus Leland and the rest of us, will be doing as the series progresses. There are a lot of possible ways to incorporate the new material into the old and have it work together without a complete suspension of belief.

Thanks for the confirmation that canon is changing. However, does this mean that you're winging it as the episodes are written and then stuffing in retcons as you go? Because that must make it hard to plan anything in advance if the canon is in a state of flux. Is everything just going to be a state of rolling retcons then? I know you said you were aware of the problems that were crashing into the Fett book, but will any other books be hit as the series goes on, or is it a wait and see situation?

DarthCappy79
Total Posts: 3
Member Since: 06/05

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 07:10 PM

Depends on what it is honestly. If GL continually decides to trample on things and it ends up being like the Star Trek EU, it will drive a lot of us away. I mean really, what's the point of reading the stories if they get rendered meaningless?

Hopefully, that's overstating it in the end but when a major writer quits over continuity issues that she can't get around, I can't help but be concerned.

I don't understand why it 's so hard to keep continuity intact and work within the frame already established.

		TheSithEmpire Member Profile Total Posts: 321 Member Since: 01/00

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 07:54 PM

This message was edited by TheSithEmpire on Aug 11, 2009 07:55 PM

Ok, I'll bite. If there were two planets named Mandalore, why wouldn't anyone have ever mentioned the other one? And why would they cause confusion by naming both planets the same thing, without even bothering to number them? And if they did because they're just that devoid of imagination, then anytime a character said he was going to Mandalore, the other person should've said?

"Which one?"
"Oh, the uninhabitable one with the cubes."
"Shame, the one with the giant dinosaur skeletons is much cooler, besides it's where every known Mandalorian calls home."
"... Yeah, I know... but that was before Lucas decided to reinvent the wheel."
"Mmm! The dark times, when half the fans left."

Grand Admiral Jenkins
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Member Since: 12/08

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 07:58 PM

I stand by my genius statement, sure others will agree.
I completely agree i may not like or agree with everything GL does but I still respect that he has created an amazing series that has lasted 30 years and led to the creation of an enormous EU.

Well crafted story, interesting characters, compelling plot, etc., these are what I would consider draws for most readers. What does it matter if a story falls within the established continuity or accepted as canon if the story sucks? KT's stories are the best written, content aside, novels in the EU thus far, in my opinion

cont.

Grand Admiral Jenkins
Total Posts: 225
Member Since: 12/08

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 08:03 PM

cont.

I dont see why we cant have both a good story and one that fits into the established continuity. You have to admit it makes a story more enjoyable when it fits into a larger arch of stories. It takes one small story and puts it into a large web that makes it all more enjoyable. Its one of the biggest reasons that i read star wars knowing that each story is a part of that larger web and that they will coincide and elaborate on events in that universe

I don't see how continuity should even come into play in this universe unless the original 3 films are going to be rewritten and produced, since they barely coincide with the prequels.

Im surprised that you would want to have the OT rewritten the OT in my opinion is perfect the way it is (besides the Ewoks lol) and besides the continuity error with Leia i dont see how the OT and PT dont coincide.

Grand Admiral Jenkins
Total Posts: 225
Member Since: 12/08

Date Posted: Aug 11, 2009 08:04 PM

cont.

I could see if you didnt like the PTs but the OT is classic a true epic. Im to be honest a little surprised that your a Star wars fan MJ it seems that you dont like anything besides KTs work.

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