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DarthPlageous
Total Posts: 68
Member Since: 11/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 06:42 AM

WHO do u think would be the better of the 2, anakin in the 3rd movie when he is a jedi, or luke in the 6th?

impulse101x
Total Posts: 20
Member Since: 03/02

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 06:45 AM

Anakin, no doubt. Think about how FAST Anakin moved in ep III compared to in his suit in ROTJ. Luke beat Vader, but do you think he could have possibly beat Anakin moving as fast as he did in ROTS and jumping all around? No way in He!!

darthnublet
Total Posts: 1129
Member Since: 11/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 06:45 AM

Anakin, hands down. He's the Chosen One. And a question, are you saying Anakin BEFORE he loses his limbs and a lot of his Force Potential, or AFTER that? If after, then perhaps Luke, because Luke is his son. If before, Anakin all the way.

Manto Riffkin
Total Posts: 29
Member Since: 11/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 09:33 AM

If only CGI had been invented during the making of TESB and ROTJ then we would see whos the greatest because oviously those two films would have had better lightsaber duels with CGI.

impulse101x
Total Posts: 20
Member Since: 03/02

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 09:36 AM

> If only CGI had been invented during the making of
> TESB and ROTJ then we would see whos the greatest
> because oviously those two films would have had
> better lightsaber duels with CGI.

Nah, thats not it. Compare the fight between Obi-Wan v Darth Maul(the 1 on 1 fight after Qui-Gon died) to any of the fights in the old movies. There was no CGI in the Obi-Wan v Darth Maul fight, but it blows the old movie fights away because of its amazing coreography. Just because their tech wasnt as good a few decades back doesnt mean they couldnt have had better coreography.

darthbanks069
Total Posts: 170
Member Since: 09/04

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 10:06 AM

anakin just because even as a child he was way more powerful cause luke was 29 or something like that and could barely deflect a laser from that ball and yes he became quit a pilot but anakin was so much better also he was intune with the force like when pod racing he said it's like he could see everything was slower but luke never commented like that when talking about piloting. and even in ROTJ he wasn't that powerful if it wasn't for an old,prosthetic limbs having, lord vader i think his a$$ would been handed to him!!!

Hermy00
Total Posts: 54
Member Since: 12/01

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 12:30 PM

wow, good question! The theory has been brought up in other threads that Padme was strong in the Force. Her strength combined with Anakins strength in theory would make Luke and Leia all the more powerful.
I think Luke was more powerful... Within days of learning about the Force he was already using a power he knew basically nothing about. ("Let go Luke, trust your feelings...") He destroyed the Death Star.
Then, from ANH to ESB he trained himself in the ways of the Force without a jedi master teaching him anything. (when he was able to pull his lightsaber out of the ice before the monster came)
to be continued...

Hermy00
Total Posts: 54
Member Since: 12/01

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 12:37 PM

This message was edited by Hermy00 on Nov 23, 2005 01:01 PM

Then the basic defeat of Vader, Luke feels the power of the dark side and how strong it makes him and is able to resist, unlike his father. Sidious then fires Force Lightening at him at point blank range, and Luke is hurt... but not affected as much as say, Anakin when Dooku shot him, or even Yoda when Sidious shot him. Both Anakin and Yoda were only hit by one bolt and were knocked out for a minute or two. Luke is consistantly shocked for a minute or so, and manages to get up right afterwards.
To wrap it all up, I believe Luke was stronger in the Force. Had he received the training that Anakin had, he would have most certainly defeated Sidious alone, which even Yoda couldn't do.
Perhaps Anakin bringing balance to the force somewhat meant he would make things equal on both sides... Sidious and Vader vs Yoda and Obi-wan. Luke was an unforseen power in the force.

luminous_beingsRwe
Total Posts: 2934
Member Since: 11/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 01:17 PM

I see your point, Hermy.

I also like that Luke could sort of dabble with the dark side but not totally be consumed by it.

Son of a Bith
Total Posts: 660
Member Since: 07/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 07:50 PM

CGI had NOTHING to do with lightsaber fights. That is Nick Gillard's excellent choreography.

PuffyCheese
Total Posts: 70
Member Since: 08/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 08:24 PM

Anakin, hands down, end of story, period. Luke was no pushover for his time, but isn't nearly as strong as Anakin.
As for the lightning, IMO it seems like Sidious is having fun killing Luke in ROTJ. To me, it looks like he's dragging out the process. Just because he's using both hands doesn't automatically mean he's using his full power.

MidichlorianMeatbag000
Total Posts: 57
Member Since: 09/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 09:38 PM

Anakin is one of the most powerful jedi of all time. Luke would put up a great fight but Anakin wins hands down.

Micki Skywalker
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Member Since: 06/05

Date Posted: Nov 23, 2005 11:47 PM

I say Luke. Luke was able to turn from the dark side in a way Anakin never could. He touched it briefly, then turned away and prepared to sacrifice his own life rather than become a Sith. That's true strength, I don't care if he could pull a ship out of a swamp or not.

Also - Anakin had intense Jedi training from the age of nine. Luke was 19 when he even learned of the Force, received very limited training from Obi and Yoda, yet was able to hold his own in a lightsaber battle in ROTJ after only 5 or 6 years of learning the Force. That's impressive. Most impressive.

misSkywalker_jedi08
Total Posts: 45
Member Since: 07/05

Date Posted: Nov 24, 2005 12:15 AM

I think that both of them are good-it's just that the age difference.
Anakin-his power, as some have said he was amazing in ep.3 ROTS
Luke-he was strong willed enough to turn against evil
BUT!!!-wat if Anakin and Luke had a duel, but not as father and son but as jedi verse jedi/evil? lets say the both of them are the same age-lets say Anakin in ep.3 and Luke in ep.6? Who would win?!
And wat if Luke was in Anakin's place in ep.3 wat would he have done-turn to the dark side like his father or be stronger and fight agaisnt evil?
WHO?!

Micki Skywalker
Total Posts: 781
Member Since: 06/05

Date Posted: Nov 24, 2005 01:46 AM

That's a hard question to answer misSkywalker, because....if Luke and Anakin were to fight each other at the same age...well first of all Luke wouldn't be born. But even hypothetically...how many years of training would Luke have in your hypothetical scenario? We don't know how powerful he would have been if he'd been raised as a Jedi. We don't know his midichlorian count either.

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