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		Rainbow Droideka Member Profile Total Posts: 3239 Member Since: 10/00

Date Posted: Mar 16, 2005 05:33 PM

Just found something interesting. In Jango Fett: Open Season it says that Jango was the one from Concord Dawn. To me that makes more sense that Boba being Jaster Mereel.

I think Jango and Jaster were both from Concord Dawn.

PeaceofStar
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Date Posted: Mar 16, 2005 07:18 PM

^ I'm thinking way too hard into this, it's giving me a headache.

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1396 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Mar 17, 2005 06:51 PM

what is the "family tree" of the Sith Lords?

Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Freedon Nadd
Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma
Rivan
Darth Revan and Darth Malak
Darth Malak and Darth Bandon
Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus
Darth Traya
Darth Andeddu (not sure about timing on this one)
Lord Kaan and his followers
Darth Bane and Zannah
Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious
Darth Sidious and Darth Maul
Darth Sidious and Darth Tyranus
Darth Sidious and Darth Vader

Never heard of Minious and according to my notes, Kreia wasn't Sith.

poverello - §RIP§
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Date Posted: Mar 17, 2005 07:12 PM

So it is confirmed that Lumiya is not actually a Sith

The Sith line indeed ended after Vader and the Emperor.

Corran Horn, Rogue Nine
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Date Posted: Mar 17, 2005 08:59 PM

A question I've been wondering about... the Dengar Roth in The Last Command, the bounty hunter who attacks Mara on Riishi, is he related to or is he the Dengar from The Empire Strikes Back? In the comic adaptation he looks like he could be Dengar without the head bandages.

		The Broox Member Profile Total Posts: 20758 Member Since: 12/02

Date Posted: Mar 17, 2005 09:13 PM

Is Lord Shadowspawn not a sith either?

jSarek
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Date Posted: Mar 17, 2005 11:16 PM

Corran Horn, Rogue Nine:

A question I've been wondering about... the Dengar Roth in The Last Command, the bounty hunter who attacks Mara on Riishi, is he related to or is he the Dengar from The Empire Strikes Back? In the comic adaptation he looks like he could be Dengar without the head bandages.

Not likely. Dengar Roth was just a pseudonym of Gunner Groth, a two-bit hunter trying to cash in on Dengar's name, much like Jodo Kast tried to do with Fett.

The Broox:

Is Lord Shadowspawn not a sith either?

It was never implied that he was, to my knowledge, beyond the fact that his name sounds kinda Sithy..

Tramp the wanderer
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 10:52 AM

> So it is confirmed that Lumiya is not actually a Sith
>

The Sith line indeed ended after Vader and the
> Emperor.

Both the NEGtC and SW Gamer #5 state that she is a Sith, with Sith training. Her stats in Gamer also give her 9 levels in the Sith Warrior Prc and 5 levels in the Sith Lord PrC. So, yes, she is a Sith.

The_Gatherer
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 04:40 PM

"It was never implied that he was, to my knowledge, beyond the fact that his name sounds kinda Sithy.."

Haha!

In real-life, some people (well, mainly in Latin America) are named Jesus. I wonder if anyone in the GFFA would be named Jedi or Sith as their first name?

poverello - §RIP§
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 04:51 PM

This message was edited by poverello - §RIP§ on Mar 18, 2005 05:32 PM

Both the NEGtC and SW Gamer #5 state that she is a Sith, with Sith training. Her stats in Gamer also give her 9 levels in the Sith Warrior Prc and 5 levels in the Sith Lord PrC. So, yes, she is a Sith.

Not when Tasty himself says otherwise

Those are indeed part of C-level canon, but conflicts do occur, and the keeper himself has given us the list of who are true Sith, where Lumiya has no place

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1396 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 05:20 PM

This message was edited by Leland Y Chee on Mar 18, 2005 05:27 PM

So it is confirmed that Lumiya is not actually a Sith

She's not a Sith Lord, but she does know a thing or two about the Sith.

In real-life, some people (well, mainly in Latin America) are named Jesus. I wonder if anyone in the GFFA would be named Jedi or Sith as their first name?

No one named Jedi or Sith, but this thinking was the general idea for the Togruta Padawan named Ashla which is an ancient term for the light side of the Force.

And if there's an Ashla, you'd think there'd be a Boga, an ancient term for the dark side of the Force. And what do you know, Obi-Wan rides a steed named Boga in Revenge of the Sith (though I can't say whether the dark side reference was intended or not.)

The2ndquest
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 10:12 PM

This message was edited by The2ndquest on Mar 18, 2005 10:13 PM

How is she not a Sith Lord? That "Dark Lady of the Sith" title seems to imply a equivilent rank/title.

Is she not essentially the modern equivilent of Darth Bane- all that remains of the previous order's teachings, able to forge ahead as a new order as she pleases?

Or are you making a distinction between "Sith Lord" and "Sith"?

The_Gatherer
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Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 09:56 PM

Wasn't the word Bogan also an early name by Lucas for the Dark Side? I believe that was a character named this (can't recall if it is first or last name) in one of the Medstar novels.

The word is always funny to me, because it is a 1970's - 80's Australian slang word, kinda like Nerd and Geek.

Tramp the wanderer
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Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 11:46 PM

> She's not a Sith Lord, but she does know a thing or two about the Sith.
>How is she not a Sith Lord? That "Dark Lady of the
> Sith" title seems to imply a equivilent rank/title.
>
> Is she not essentially the modern equivilent of Darth
> Bane- all that remains of the previous order's
> teachings, able to forge ahead as a new order as she
> pleases?
>
> Or are you making a distinction between "Sith Lord"
> and "Sith"?

Also, as I posted above, two seperate sources state specifically that she was trained in the Sith arts, and one source, specifically give her levels in both the Sith Warrior and Sith Lord Prestige Classes. Both the New Essential Guide to Characters and SW Gamer #5 state that she is a Sith Lord, or more accurately, a Sith Lady; though this fact was hidden from the Emperor by Vader.

poverello - §RIP§
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Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 11:51 PM

But Tasty himself said she's not, so the EGC and Gamer are in error

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