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jediforcefreak
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 03:59 PM

This message was edited by Master Mike... on Jan 25, 2004 05:52 AM

I've searched around and haven't found anything on this. It is well known fact that OB1 never obtains the rank of master, but if Anakin becomes a Jedi Knight then how come OB1 doesn't obtain the rank of Master?

If you have seen the webcam it says that Anakin is a Jedi Knight.

SaberDude2004
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Member Since: 12/03

Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:11 PM

hey jediforcefreak. I seriously doubt that he does... since he didnt follow the Council's advice to not train Anakin. Well I guess I have to see the movie first!

Venum X.
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Member Since: 12/03

Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:13 PM

The clone war is at it's peak, and all the jedi, including the ones on the council, are involved with the war. So there's just not enough time to update rankings or promote among the jedi order.
In EP2, Anakin was already close to being a knight, so prolly sometime shortly after the war started, he got the rank of Jedi knight.

jediforcefreak
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:21 PM

In regards to what you are saying if Ani gets his title then surely there is enough for OB1 to get his, since he did train him.

General Guinea Dogs Rule
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:26 PM

In ANH doesnt it say. I think I recall ob1 saying somthing like that

Darth Razorback
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:42 PM

This message was edited by Darth Razorback on Dec 31, 2003 04:42 PM

Anakin is a Jedi Knight in Episode III, so that would make Obi-Wan a Jedi Master.

Darth Kazi
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:42 PM

I originally didn't think Anakin was a Jedi Knight, but he is.

There was some Ask the Council question that said old Ben was a Jedi Knight.

It would be cool to see him reach Masterhood though.

Venum X.
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 04:49 PM

Anakin is a Jedi Knight in Episode III, so that would make Obi-Wan a Jedi Master.

Says who?

Darth Kazi
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2003 05:15 PM

This message was edited by Darth Kazi on Dec 31, 2003 05:21 PM

One of the requirements to Masterhood may be successfully training a Padawan into a Knight, however that's not established canon.

From the Databank

The next level of rank in the Jedi order is the Jedi Master, reserved for those who have shown exceptional devotion and skill in the Force. It is from the ranks of the Jedi Masters that the High Council is chosen, which is the main interface between the Jedi and the government of the Republic.

No specifics there.

Thank you Dr. 90210
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Date Posted: Jan 01, 2004 11:47 AM

This message was edited by Thank you Dr. 90210 on Jan 01, 2004 11:47 AM

Venum X
Anakin is a Jedi Knight in Episode III, so that would make Obi-Wan a Jedi Master.

Says who? says Razorback
hes "confident" his ideas are accurate and better than any of ours

** shhhhh! he secretly believes his theories hold higher reagrd than the database

Jedi Master Brendon Kenobi
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Date Posted: Jan 01, 2004 12:19 PM

This message was edited by Jedi Master Brendon Kenobi on Jan 01, 2004 12:19 PM

Anakin is a Jedi Knight and Obi Wan is a Jedi Master. It says so in the ask the jedi council thing.

Lord Darth JosMan
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Date Posted: Jan 01, 2004 12:29 PM

In EP2, Anakin was already close to being a knight, so prolly sometime shortly after the war started, he got the rank of Jedi knight.

When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master.

Lord Darth JosMan
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Date Posted: Jan 01, 2004 12:38 PM

This message was edited by Lord Darth JosMan on Jan 01, 2004 12:46 PM

It is well known fact that OB1 never obtains the rank of master, but if Anakin becomes a Jedi Knight then how come OB1 doesn't obtain the rank of Master?

Master Kenobi you disappoint me, Yoda holds you in such a high esteem

Obi-Wan was a Master jedi, and by the way, Anakin obteined the rank of knight at the end of ROTJ

Solo Runner
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Date Posted: Jan 01, 2004 12:46 PM

Anakin is a Jedi Knight and Obi Wan is a Jedi Master. It says so in the ask the jedi council thing.

Could you provide a link to where you got that. I've seen no such thing, and it was always my impression that Obi-Wan never became a Jedi Master.

I've wondered for some time how they decide which Jedi become Masters-- perhaps a different set of trials, or maybe a review by the Jedi Council? The Databank seems to imply that you have to do more than just successfully train an apprentice.

Maybe Obi-Wan earned the title, but the Order was wiped out before he could be given the rank of Master.

Solo Runner
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Date Posted: Jan 01, 2004 12:51 PM

This message was edited by Solo Runner on Jan 01, 2004 12:52 PM

If you're talking about this one:

http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/jocasta/askjc20020606.html

It doesn't say Obi-Wan became a Master. It merely says that when the Kaminoans called him "Master Jedi" in AOTC, they were using an honorific, and that he wasn't really a Jedi Master at that time.

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